Aikido Sparring

I’m told Jujitsu’s the best to learn because judo, aikido and karate all come from jujitsu. Is this true? It has sparring so at least there’s a chance to learn real life situations (unlike much of aikido).
It has throws (like Judo and Aikido).
It has locks (like aikido)
It has strikes (like karate).
It seems useful for both distance, close and ground fighting, while the other martial arts seems to lack all three.

I’m after something practical the relies on locks and flow more than strikes, but I don’t want to neglect strikes. Is jujitsu the best way to go?

(I know there’s no ‘right’ martial art, but some are bound to be more practical than others).
(I mean Japanese Jujitsu. Brazilian comes from JJJ, so I guess that’s 4 major fighting styles that would come from the same origin).
I got the idea from this site: http://www.alljujitsu.com/

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Aikido Sparring

Also, what type of sparring/training do you do? This is for anybody that has taken, is taking, or has researched Japanese Jujutsu.

I am currently taking a type of Japanese Jujutsu. I am curious how "normal" it is compared to other Japanese Jujutus styles. I know my style has been Westernized some and had different elements added to it, but, it is distinctly (as how you see it on the internet, youtube, and books) Japanese Jujutsu.

I was mainly curious what you do in your average practice.

- What do you mainly focus on? Strikes? Groundwork? Wristlocks? Or well-rounded?

- Do you do competitions?

- How do you spar? I am very interested in how other JJ practitioners spar. I have not experienced sparring of any kind, yet, but, I am a white belt also. I have seen some light contact sparring (without pads), "anything goes (but with utmost safety)," against two upper (intermediate) belts. I am told by my sensei that they do a type of Aikido-like randori. A person defends themselves against multiple attackers (coming one by one) with a controlled (cooperative not resistance) technique against there opponent.

Is your sparring like this?

I realize there are many, many, (like 300 more/less) JJ substyles. But, all of them have a lot of similarities between them. What is yours like?

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Aikido Sparring

Aikido will not seem to work, because for it to work, a cooperation from the thug is needed, like "give me your wrist, no, not that, the other wrist, okay, extend it further and don’t move while I twist it…". In Hapkido, I’ve watched the videos of the "masters" in youtube, and basically shows the same, what if the thug’s punches is a springy one, or coming from all angles and fist retracting like a boxer? What I love about Hapkido is sweeping technique which I don’t find in some MA. In TKD, mostly kicks, around 80%, right? but one non-practicing thug in MA can block and catch a kick and pound the TKD guy to the ground, imho. The sparring sessions doesn’t show much how to apply in real life street fight, they just kick and kick till they get tired. I’ve seen first hand how a TKD black belt was taken apart by a street toughie (although the thug is a foot taller and muscular) and pounded to the ground, so from then on I told myself not to take TKD. In Karate, i’ve seen most of the kumites in youtube, seems effective in a real life scenario in my opinion, but once the practitioner gets a big smack in the face by a much bigger, stronger thug, all defenses will be gone.

All of these are based on my opinion, what I’ve seen and what my thoughts about. Every MA is great and equal, but each one has flaws in a real fight.

If you have experience in any of these MAs applied in a street fight at some point in your life, can you add the value of knowing one ART that you have used to win that fight?

I’m an amateur boxer, btw, 26 w 2 L in my fights, and really serious about taking any one of these MA asap.

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Aikido, like Tae Kwon Do, and some other martial arts tends to be discredited as a self-defense art. Several people usually say it’s garbage while others think it’s good as any other martial art or even more so. What do you think?

I have usually made the opinion that I don’t think it’s the best self-defense art out there. It takes a long time to master, has no full-contact sparring, has no grounfighting, tends to be too complicated, etc. Now, despite saying all of that, it can be used effectiely for self-defense. It just takes a long time, complete dedication, a warrior spirit from the Aikidoka, etc. So, I tend to fall somewhere in the middle of it being utter garbage and a very effectie style of self-defense.

What do you think?

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Is Aikido effective on its own?

I am asking this question because of tehe way Aikido is being taught at my dojo.

The strikes (atemi) are not realistic, and people (both uke and nage), are not in situations where they required to turn or dodge fast.

Likewise, we are not taught effective strikings; as in, how to properly throw a punch or a kick, or how to parry a punch thrown by a boxer or a trained martial artist.

I know that in BJJ or wrestling or judo, the practitioners are also not trained in striking. However, people in those martial arts engage in sparring. So, there is an element of a real fight where both parties have to really apply what they learn, but in a safe environment.

Also, I am noticing that many guys in my dojo developing egos. I have seen guys with black belts or dans who think the world of themselves, and do not keep an open mind to improve. I also have a 4th dan instructor who has not been training for years, but only conducts lessons. And half the time, the lesson is taught by his assistant, while he just stands around and gives pointers once a while.

With such attitudes during training, I am just wondering if Aikido is effective? Are such attitudes common, or is it just my dojo?

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I’m quite interested in aikido and would like to start doing it but I have a few questions:

Is it good for self defense in real situations? A lot of it seems to be doing pre-arranged moves against a partner who knows how to fall and is not really fighting back. Also, one of the main things of aikido (I think) is not to cause harm to the attacker but in a real fight I would want to neutralize my attacker somehow.

There is a more spiritual side to it, is this religious at all or a more ‘in tune with the body’ kind of thing?

Should I look for a school which does sparring and/or weapons training or is any style good for what I’m looking for (not a ‘sport’ art, as karate for example often is)?

Uh, can’t think of any more right now.
Note that I’m not looking only to defend myself, I know there’s simpler ways not to get mugged but I like the look of aikido in general.
Thanks!
Also, I presume it would take quite some time to become relatively good at it, in or out of the dojo?

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My girl friend decided take a break from kick boxing and I thought we would do a Martial art together. Lucky for us there happens to a Aikido Dojo and several Wing Chun Dojo’s in my area and I was wondering which one we should do. I use to do Kendo and Arnis Karate and she was in to sparring and kick boxing. I’m not looking for the best, just peoples opinion on which one enjoyable.

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Aikido has some good things. It is less abusive on the body for one thing. But would someone be able to use it effectively at all within a reasonable amount of time (1 to 2 yrs. of training)? I’m talking about self defense not fighting it out with someone. Just protecting myself with what aikido has and not getting all tough guy Steven Segal on someone.
Judo is good but very abusive on the body. It has a lot of good self defense tools. But is it worth putting my body through that abuse? Can I achieve self defense through aikido without all the ultra competitiveness and abuse Judo can bring to a practitioner? Yes, if I took Judo I would feel the need to do it all sparring and competition.
Any advice out there? I personally like aikido a bit better than judo but I want to have competent self defense skills too. I don’t want to do something that just gives me a false sense of security and fails against an attacker.

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Aikido Sparring

Which would be harder on a beginner fitness-wise? WTF taekwondo classes or tomiki/shodokan aikido? i attended a WTF class tonight for the first time. I nearly broke my foot on a pad practising kicks and the punching left my knuckles red. both due to my technique. the instructor and blackbelt present were great. boy i was dead by the time I came to the end of slow/light sparring practice. another club nearby has tomiki/shodokan aikido on the same night. this class is 90 minutes where taekwondo was an hour. whilst the sparring was fun and my sorta thing i was so sore at the end of the lesson. i was wondering if sports aikido (tomiki/shodokan) would be gentler on me as I am in my 30′s and wayyyyyyyy out of shape.
i can see the question misleads slightly.

part of my concern is fitness however its not the main concern.

It ranks about even with defensive skills and socialisation.

WTF taekwondo does have all 3 however I am wondering if, due to closing in on middle age, i might take a bit og a “bashing” getting up to the level of fitness and such required.

I notice I have damaged a toe in lesson 1. it was a bit painful to walk on today. not unbearably so but it was noticed that it was twinging.

That, coupled with my inability to punch properly makes me wonder about it as a means of gaining the fitness i need given the training style.

I love the concept of sparring and i enjoyed the practise.

I know regular aikido might be a softer art training-wise. I even already do rolling breakfalls as i was taught the skill at a young age.

I am really wondering if sports aikido might combine a softer art with the benefits of sparring.
its not lasting hurt. still a bit stiff but the foot has come good.

as for sports aikido. its a style used by some japanese police departments so i presume it has some good points.
the sparring was very light contact.

when i was a kid where i grew up had “karate” classes that used the same thing to keep kids interested.

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